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we are all heart broken and will miss him dearly. >> hernandez had been working for the tsa since 2010. he is the first tsa officer to be killed in the line of duty. >>> secretary of state met with egy egypt's foreign minister and didn't extend -- because it's quote policy. kerry is the highest level official to visit since morsey's ou ouster. his trial begins tomorrow. >>> after nsa edward snowden met with a german lawmaker in moscow he reportedly said he is willing to testify. he will go to nogermany as longs that country doesn't send him to the us. he said in a manifesto today that he feels justified in spilling intelligence secrets. the german lawmaker who met edward snowden said the confessed leaker wants to testify in front of congress. >> he stressed that he is ready to come before the german parliament to testify and that he would rather go before the pairliment and put the facts on the table. >> she says he is making his own decisions and is not being manipulated by the russians. >> despite the police state surveillance state we have been turning into. i think he would love to
we are all heart broken and will miss him dearly. >> hernandez had been working for the tsa since 2010. he is the first tsa officer to be killed in the line of duty. >>> secretary of state met with egy egypt's foreign minister and didn't extend -- because it's quote policy. kerry is the highest level official to visit since morsey's ou ouster. his trial begins tomorrow. >>> after nsa edward snowden met with a german lawmaker in moscow he reportedly said he is willing to...
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honoring this fallen tsa officer? >> reporter: well, the first thing you'll notice especially if you come at night because it will be more visible at night but when you enter the gates of los angeles, of leak.a.x., ther are 100-foot pylons and those until thursday will be fighting up the light sky blue for the tsa colors. that's the first way. when you go in to check in, what you'll see is that the tsa officers if you look at their badges, almost every single one of them has a black band over it. the reason why this is so significant is these are semi, quasi-law enforcement jobs. many of these folks are former military, but also there are civilians in the mix here. this is shaking them to the core, don, so this for them is certainly reminding them what they put at stake here every day, don. >> i need to get to the press conference. we'll get back to you in just moments. stand by. let's listen in. >> -- found impacting approximately 3,400 passengers. now, passengers are checking in at t-3 now. the jetblue and frontier
honoring this fallen tsa officer? >> reporter: well, the first thing you'll notice especially if you come at night because it will be more visible at night but when you enter the gates of los angeles, of leak.a.x., ther are 100-foot pylons and those until thursday will be fighting up the light sky blue for the tsa colors. that's the first way. when you go in to check in, what you'll see is that the tsa officers if you look at their badges, almost every single one of them has a black band...
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but you cannot arm all the tsa. because when you arm a federal officer, it puts them in a different rank. you have to requalify on the firearms. a lot of my employees were armed. you have to requalify every 30 days. it's very expensive. it's very difficult, but the tsa needs to be protected with armed personnel and i think it has to be officers. i think it has to be police. >> can i ask you something real quickly. because what about the actual physicality of the airports? i notice los angeles, it's not a long distance between the curb and when you get to security. same thing at laguardia, it's, like, security is right there. but there are other bigger airports where you have to go a longer way, there are more steps, more layers. is that something that may possibly we should be looking in to? >> yes. but it's very difficult, because the airports that are newer like hartsfield, like denver, they're set up with many barriers to entry and you have a few main portals and they're easier to secure and less expensive to sec
but you cannot arm all the tsa. because when you arm a federal officer, it puts them in a different rank. you have to requalify on the firearms. a lot of my employees were armed. you have to requalify every 30 days. it's very expensive. it's very difficult, but the tsa needs to be protected with armed personnel and i think it has to be officers. i think it has to be police. >> can i ask you something real quickly. because what about the actual physicality of the airports? i notice los...
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tonight, breaking news, one of the tsa oicers wounded at l.a.x. describes the rampage that killed one of his colleagues, later killed a friend. >>> and later, what michelle knight endured year after year. she is finally telling her story to dr. phil later tonight. >>> and plus, incident from a player. >>> a tsa officer wounded in friday's rampage at los angeles international airport is telling his story for the f
tonight, breaking news, one of the tsa oicers wounded at l.a.x. describes the rampage that killed one of his colleagues, later killed a friend. >>> and later, what michelle knight endured year after year. she is finally telling her story to dr. phil later tonight. >>> and plus, incident from a player. >>> a tsa officer wounded in friday's rampage at los angeles international airport is telling his story for the f
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shooting will cause changes in tsa. it's unlikely they will begin arming officers. >> los angeles a tough place because they have so many portals into the airport. yes, i think you need an armed guard, armed personnel, law enforcement at the gate. i think it has to be law enforcement for many reasons. you cannot arm all the tsa. when you arm a federal officer, you are in a different rank. you have to requalify every 30 days, it's very expensive and difficult. tsa needs to be protected with armed personnel. i think it has to be officers, police. >> mary tells me one of the challenges at l.a.x. is the fact airport entrances are close to security check points. they have been built with more buffers between the entrances and check points. so, i want to talk more about the shooting with her again, the former fbi profiler and lou, a retired law enforcement agent. mary ellen, it's surprising we haven't seen more attacks like this one. is it surprising and do you think we'll see more? i hate to have you answer that question. is
shooting will cause changes in tsa. it's unlikely they will begin arming officers. >> los angeles a tough place because they have so many portals into the airport. yes, i think you need an armed guard, armed personnel, law enforcement at the gate. i think it has to be law enforcement for many reasons. you cannot arm all the tsa. when you arm a federal officer, you are in a different rank. you have to requalify every 30 days, it's very expensive and difficult. tsa needs to be protected...
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should the tsa have more security, have the right to have guns? would that solve any of this. we are learning more about the alleged gunman, paul ciancia and why he may have been target being tsa officers specifically. according to the latest we have from the fbi, investigators found a note from ciancia that made it clear he wanted to kill tsa officers. now he said he acted alone, but was he part of an anti-government group that is rising in popularity across the united states? as in, could this happen again? out front tonight, a senior fellow at the law center and michael medved. you spend your entire life tracking these things. you say he appears to be in line with a patriot movement, very important word there, patriot, which believes that the federal government wants to destroy freedoms, impose martial law and take away non-law enforcement weapons. are you convinced that ciancia was part of this movement? >> no, i think convinced would be a little strong. we learned over the weekend that there were some other references in his one page, handwritten note. he talked about the
should the tsa have more security, have the right to have guns? would that solve any of this. we are learning more about the alleged gunman, paul ciancia and why he may have been target being tsa officers specifically. according to the latest we have from the fbi, investigators found a note from ciancia that made it clear he wanted to kill tsa officers. now he said he acted alone, but was he part of an anti-government group that is rising in popularity across the united states? as in, could...
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should tsa officers now be armed? i will ask california senator dianne feinstein. >>> also, are the 2016 battle lines being drawn? chris christie may be heading for a big win that could boost his white house chances as an influential center. it falls on hillary clinton to launch her own run. >>> and four years after political opposition fueled his pl
should tsa officers now be armed? i will ask california senator dianne feinstein. >>> also, are the 2016 battle lines being drawn? chris christie may be heading for a big win that could boost his white house chances as an influential center. it falls on hillary clinton to launch her own run. >>> and four years after political opposition fueled his pl
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>> caller: the tsa officer? i'm not aware of that. my understanding is there are thousands of employees and millions of passengers. i'm sure there's a conflict here or there. but i don't have a sense that there's not a very good working relationship amongst the public safety and homeland security people. >> law enforcement source tells cnn before the repositioning, airport police officers complained to the union about being board with the assignment of being stationed behind the tsa checkpoint. do you think that could have prompted a switch? >> i don't know why they were board. i issue is, i think over time, i think that whole issue of airport security has evolved. i think initially when it was set up, they thought the primary point of danger was at the checkpoint when people were going to be searched. when they are going through the system at the particular point and you needed law enforcement there to protect the tsa officers and to take people into custody if they should show up at the screening with weapons or items that they shou
>> caller: the tsa officer? i'm not aware of that. my understanding is there are thousands of employees and millions of passengers. i'm sure there's a conflict here or there. but i don't have a sense that there's not a very good working relationship amongst the public safety and homeland security people. >> law enforcement source tells cnn before the repositioning, airport police officers complained to the union about being board with the assignment of being stationed behind the tsa...
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one day after a tsa officer was shot and killed inside terminal 3. shooting delayed dozens of flights and affected 160,000 passengers. the pakistani government demanded a meeting with the u.s. ambassador. a drone attack killed the leader of the pakistan taliban. the government was worried it could impact ongoing peace talks. the website used to enrol president obama's health care program will be down. healthcare.gov will be offline from 9 o'clock eerp all the way until sunday morning at 9 o'clock. officials can sign up for insurance over the phone. >> thousands of red sox fans lined the streets of boston for a victory parade. the celebration was a third of its kind as boston won the series three times in the past 10 years. >> those are the headlines. i'll be back at 8 o'clock eastern. first, "fault line" collected all america's surveillance state is next. find us on line at aljazeera.com. have a good night. secrets are out. by now, most of the world has heard the name edward snowden. the former national security agency contractor who released thousan
one day after a tsa officer was shot and killed inside terminal 3. shooting delayed dozens of flights and affected 160,000 passengers. the pakistani government demanded a meeting with the u.s. ambassador. a drone attack killed the leader of the pakistan taliban. the government was worried it could impact ongoing peace talks. the website used to enrol president obama's health care program will be down. healthcare.gov will be offline from 9 o'clock eerp all the way until sunday morning at 9...
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agent himself and that a tsa agent pulled this weapon out of a bag and shot another tsa agent, according to the "los angeles times." they're quoting sources and we should find out within a matter of minutes. our coverage continues right after this. (announcer) at scottrade, our clients trade and invest exactly how they want. with scottrade's online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login... to easily move my money when i need to. plus, when i call my local scottrade office, i can talk to someone who knows how i trade. because i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) scottrade-proud to be ranked "best overall client experience." >>> past noon in los angeles, this is fox news continues coverage of the shooting that happened this morning at lax. i was telling you about the reporting of the "l.a. times." they reported at 11:36 los angeles time on their website that law enforcement sources told the "l.a. times" that the gunman was a transportation security administration employee at lax. fast forward now. to current time,
agent himself and that a tsa agent pulled this weapon out of a bag and shot another tsa agent, according to the "los angeles times." they're quoting sources and we should find out within a matter of minutes. our coverage continues right after this. (announcer) at scottrade, our clients trade and invest exactly how they want. with scottrade's online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login... to easily move my money when i need to. plus, when i call my...
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was the tsa prepared to handle this? do we know much about that specific check point and how he was able to get through? >> speaking to folks at the tsa, they focus on keeping weapons and other dangerous things off the airplane. they tend to leave the shooting to trained shooters and in fact, i spoke to the head of the tsa union today and he said that's one thing they haven't asked for. they haven't asked for their agents, officer, rather to be armed. that said, after i reported that i got tweets back from some tsa agents out there who disagree with that position and feel like one of them wrote to me unarmed sitting ducks but that's at least the union position, and to be clear, it's not like there aren't loads of armed agents running around an airport like that. there are 2100 tsa officers in lax and more than a thousand l.a. airport police armed and the dha with air marijuanas on board planes and also on the airport. so a lot of armed agents around. it the tsa agent's position to leave the shooting to them and they will
was the tsa prepared to handle this? do we know much about that specific check point and how he was able to get through? >> speaking to folks at the tsa, they focus on keeping weapons and other dangerous things off the airplane. they tend to leave the shooting to trained shooters and in fact, i spoke to the head of the tsa union today and he said that's one thing they haven't asked for. they haven't asked for their agents, officer, rather to be armed. that said, after i reported that i...
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there's no indication at this point that he is a current or former tsa or tsa contractor. but, precisely who he is and what he was doing, we don't know. and you've probably seen this, tamron, the reports from -- the statement from the hospital, we believe the three tsa employees who were wound were taken to the ucla medical center, two in fair condition, one in critical condition. >> i'm so happy you adreszed this. there are a number of reports that this was a tsa employee or former employee. and people have been with the social media engagement asking if that is the case. the information that you've been able to get is that it is not. we're watching as the los angeles mayor eric garcetti and l.a. police chief charlie beck now preparing to start the news conference. leon, can you tell me what you saw? >> you ready? >> yes. >> are you there? >> yes, i am. >> can you tell me what you saw in the airport? >> well, basically i was at the security checkpoint and just gotten through the security checkpoint and i got my belt and shoes were off -- >> leon, let me interrupt you real
there's no indication at this point that he is a current or former tsa or tsa contractor. but, precisely who he is and what he was doing, we don't know. and you've probably seen this, tamron, the reports from -- the statement from the hospital, we believe the three tsa employees who were wound were taken to the ucla medical center, two in fair condition, one in critical condition. >> i'm so happy you adreszed this. there are a number of reports that this was a tsa employee or former...
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what had his relationship with tsa? if it is home grown, there's so many other ways to resolve conflict but unfortunately violence is a means of conflict resolution in this country. >> tell us more about tsa officers in general. they are not really police but do have that sort of responsibility within one area of the airport. but there are also actual officers and military personnel at airports. they don't have guns but they are sort of first level of response. tell us about tsa and what we need and expect from them? >> of course, tsa came about after 9/11 when we had planes hijacked and other individuals running metal detectors. tsa is well trained as they are, these are security officers, not law enforcement officers, don't carry guns or have the power of arrest. they rely on local police, sheriff's deputies, whatever sworn law enforcement officer at that airport to handle that responsibility. by and large they interact with the public and screen our baggage. they are first line of defense for you and me when we trave
what had his relationship with tsa? if it is home grown, there's so many other ways to resolve conflict but unfortunately violence is a means of conflict resolution in this country. >> tell us more about tsa officers in general. they are not really police but do have that sort of responsibility within one area of the airport. but there are also actual officers and military personnel at airports. they don't have guns but they are sort of first level of response. tell us about tsa and what...
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there is at least one other tsa employee who was wound by gunshot. there are additional injuries, some of which seem to be potential evasion injuries, where they may have injured themselves trying to get away. at this point, we have one terminal shut down and we will have it shut down for a while while we continue the investigation. forensics team are in there from the fbi as well as the lapd. their work is long and methodical and they will take their time on this to be complete in their investigation. we do have a up the line. i would like to pass out. that an fbi tip line. the number is 1-888-226-8443. if you have, i would seek the public's assistance. if they have information which would be beneficial to this investigation and we ask that they please keep it to that. we would like to know about it'll we do have that line staffed right now. it is available and we are ready to run those leads. additional information, i can you want all the facts. we cannot provide those to you at this point. i see some of you smiling. we're not going to give -- >> w
there is at least one other tsa employee who was wound by gunshot. there are additional injuries, some of which seem to be potential evasion injuries, where they may have injured themselves trying to get away. at this point, we have one terminal shut down and we will have it shut down for a while while we continue the investigation. forensics team are in there from the fbi as well as the lapd. their work is long and methodical and they will take their time on this to be complete in their...
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among his victims a tsa officer shot and killed. the first tsa officer ever killed in line of duty. these are aerial pictures from our station in los angeles kabc, and this evening one of the nation's busiest airports with a heavy police presence, we have team coverage here on the fast moving investigation. we lead off with david wright. on the scene. >> reporter: panicked rush hour here at the nation's third busiest airport. and a terrifying announcement. >> we have a shooting in terminal 3. >> reporter: at 9:20 a.m. the suspect marched up to the check point in terminal 3, pulled out a high powered rifle and opened fire. >> first shot went out, and i mean, it was a loud bang. >> reporter: nick pugh had shown his id at the terminal 3 screening area. did people panic? >> everybody panicked, everybody dropped to the ground and crawled across the ground really quickly. >> reporter: eyewitnesses say the gunman appeared to be aiming at tsa officers killing one of them wounding at least three others, for the passengers and workers at l.a.x., pandemonium. those passengers hiding in the bat
among his victims a tsa officer shot and killed. the first tsa officer ever killed in line of duty. these are aerial pictures from our station in los angeles kabc, and this evening one of the nation's busiest airports with a heavy police presence, we have team coverage here on the fast moving investigation. we lead off with david wright. on the scene. >> reporter: panicked rush hour here at the nation's third busiest airport. and a terrifying announcement. >> we have a shooting in...
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he's focused on the tsa agents. inside the bag we are told investigators came up with notes saying that the tsa were facists and pigs, anti-american rantings, anti-tsa rantings and references to the new world order which is another growing conspiracy group that believes the world is going to be taken over by forces and black helicopters and so on. interestingly, scott, today he texted his parents from l.a. to new jersey and said he was going to kill himself today. they called the police. there was a response to his house. apparently they didn't make contact with him but a roommate who didn't know where he was. so this was something that was roiling in his head today. >> pelley: john, thank you very much. there are big security concerns also in new york city because there will be two million spectators for the marathon which is running this sunday. and after what happened in boston, we asked jim axelrod to have a look at what's being done in new york to keep everyone safe. >> reporter: race organizers are spending tw
he's focused on the tsa agents. inside the bag we are told investigators came up with notes saying that the tsa were facists and pigs, anti-american rantings, anti-tsa rantings and references to the new world order which is another growing conspiracy group that believes the world is going to be taken over by forces and black helicopters and so on. interestingly, scott, today he texted his parents from l.a. to new jersey and said he was going to kill himself today. they called the police. there...
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we know tsa agents themselves are not armed. not the people who check your boarding pass, documentation, not the people who run conveyor belts or scanners, who was it? if there was an exchange of gunfire and alleged suspect was one of the people firing, who was firing on the other side of it. if tsa agents are not armed, and they are not, we've just confirmed that, lapd and perhaps a federal marshall, u.s. marshall could be at that area at each checkpoint. the notion somebody prevented what could have been a much wider incident or tragedy today, it might not have been a tsa person. whoever fired the shot has not yet been identified. that's one of the things we'll confirm as the afternoon goes on. >> jim cavanaugh, there are conflicting reports. i interviewed an eyewitness earlier, a passenger who described seeing a man with a long gun walking around inside the checkpoint. if all the other reports are accurate, this shooter will stop at the checkpoint. the man he claims to have seen will not be the same as the shooter. maybe ther
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they will certainly take look at that. >> would they consider arming tsa agents? that's something that has to be thought about. >> that would be a decision made at the national level. the federal level, i think, it is not likely that they will look to arm tsa agents. they are civilian employees, they don't have any training, any background, law enforcement training. the quickest and best way to go would be more police presence at those baggage screening areas. >> thanks for being on tonight. >>> a remarkable story this weekend involving the mid-air collision of two small planes. they were carrying a total of nine skydivers and were flying in formation over northern wisconsin when they collided. causing one to catch fire, break up and crash. ten of the 11 people on the planes jumped to safety while the pilot of the second plane was able to land it. amazingly, no major injuries were reported. >>> we turn to politics and even if it is three years to the next presidential election, it might not have seemed that way this weekend. as new jersey's republican governor chr
they will certainly take look at that. >> would they consider arming tsa agents? that's something that has to be thought about. >> that would be a decision made at the national level. the federal level, i think, it is not likely that they will look to arm tsa agents. they are civilian employees, they don't have any training, any background, law enforcement training. the quickest and best way to go would be more police presence at those baggage screening areas. >> thanks for...
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you know, did this person, did this shooter, this possibly know this tsa agent? was it a random act? who is this person? what's their affiliation? these are all questions that law enforcement want to know. still find it interesting, we haven't seen the triage area broken down. maybe out of an abandbundance o caution. there's planes that are landing, we see some action, planes moving around the taxi ways, but they still have not broken down this triage area, and i have counted five or six medic units, ambulances that are still there. and the fire department command post right there, we see a battalion chief's vehicle, probably an ems supervisor, as well as on the left, the law enforcement with the mobile command unit there and a lot of activity there. there's a lot of work to do on the law enforcement side of things with this investigation. we saw two fbi agents, looked like one possibly with the evidence response team. walking into the airport. saw them there early on. because if in fact it was a tsa agent we're hearing who was wounded, it will be -- that is a fe
you know, did this person, did this shooter, this possibly know this tsa agent? was it a random act? who is this person? what's their affiliation? these are all questions that law enforcement want to know. still find it interesting, we haven't seen the triage area broken down. maybe out of an abandbundance o caution. there's planes that are landing, we see some action, planes moving around the taxi ways, but they still have not broken down this triage area, and i have counted five or six medic...
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so the tsa is far better, but they are sitting ducks. >> the first line of security is that tsa checkpoint. if you go to other airports around the world as you have, there are always checkpoints as you drive into the airport. they stop your vehicle. is that something we should be considering here? >> well, folks, at least as old as me will remember that we did that in the wake of september 11th, 2001. we did have those kinds of checkpoints. l.a.x. is particularly difficult, because we have so many different terminals. a lot of airports you have one main entranceway, like atlanta, that gets you into all the areas of the airport, but it's much easier to secure it. airports like l.a.x., dallas/ft. worth, kansas city, there are so many portals, areas to secure that they're tough. l.a.x. is one of those tough airports. they have decisional issues that maybe some other airports like heartsfield don't have. >> mary coffee, thanks for coming in. >> thank yskaufo, just as it wa happening, we are our correspondents and analysts standing by. much more as our special coverage continues. she loves a lo
so the tsa is far better, but they are sitting ducks. >> the first line of security is that tsa checkpoint. if you go to other airports around the world as you have, there are always checkpoints as you drive into the airport. they stop your vehicle. is that something we should be considering here? >> well, folks, at least as old as me will remember that we did that in the wake of september 11th, 2001. we did have those kinds of checkpoints. l.a.x. is particularly difficult, because...
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one tsa agent dead, two others hurt in a shooting at l.a.x. now new information about the suspected gunman and a potential motive for the rampage. >>> a controversial nypd program remains in place. officers can stop and frisk anyone they think looks suspicious. but does the program unfairly target african-americans? >>> and chris brown is in rehab, but not for drugs or alcohol. the singer is getting treatment for anger issues. are celebs using rehab to avoid bigger legal problems? all that coming up. >>> a major investigation is under way at the los angeles international airport. a day after a gunman burst in and killed a tsa officer. here's what we know today. tsa administrator john pistole is on his way to los angeles today. he is expected to meet with the family of killed tsa officer hernandez and others. right now l.a.x. is open but no flights are leaving from terminal 3 where the shooting happened yesterday. a tweet from the airport says people who left things in that terminal yesterday can now get them at the ticket counter. >>> we're al
one tsa agent dead, two others hurt in a shooting at l.a.x. now new information about the suspected gunman and a potential motive for the rampage. >>> a controversial nypd program remains in place. officers can stop and frisk anyone they think looks suspicious. but does the program unfairly target african-americans? >>> and chris brown is in rehab, but not for drugs or alcohol. the singer is getting treatment for anger issues. are celebs using rehab to avoid bigger legal...
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here on the east coast, a shooter shot a tsa guard, tsa agent, then went through the terminal. he ultimately was shot as well. police say that he is in custody. we're not sure about how he is doing. seven other individuals were wounded at least, according to law enforcement officials. i want to now go to senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen for the latest on the condition of individuals. elizabeth, we know from ronald reagan ucla medical center that three individuals were admitted there. what do we know about them and what do we know about the other wounded? >> right. those three who are at ucla ronald reagan, there are two in fair condition and one in critical condition. all we know about these patients is that they're adult males. that's all we know. one in critical, two in fair. they did note the patients in fair condition usually go home within a day or two so it seems like those injuries really aren't terribly severe. as you noted, three were sent -- three patients were sent to other area hospitals. we don't know anything about those patients right now. >> and we w
here on the east coast, a shooter shot a tsa guard, tsa agent, then went through the terminal. he ultimately was shot as well. police say that he is in custody. we're not sure about how he is doing. seven other individuals were wounded at least, according to law enforcement officials. i want to now go to senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen for the latest on the condition of individuals. elizabeth, we know from ronald reagan ucla medical center that three individuals were admitted...
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do tsa agents need to be armed? our justice correspondent pete williams will be here in a little while to give us an update and fresh report on all of that. but first, the obama care debate. the healthcare.gov was actually off site for repairs over the weekend. they said saturday the glitches are, quote, just at this present time of the iceberg. this week, as you might have remembered, the president traveled to boston to compare the rough start of obama care to what he called the slow start of the massachusetts health care plan. but he also praised his 2012 opponent mitt romney, who in 2006, as governor of massachusetts, signed that state's health care reform legislation into law. >> i've always believed that when he was governor here in massachusetts, he did the right thing on health care. if it was hard doing it just in one state, it's harder doing it in all 50 states. >> that is proving to be the case. and the 2012 republican presidential nominee, former governor mitt romney joins me exclusively this morning. gov
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should tsa officers now be armed? i will ask california senator dianne feinstein. >>> also, are the 2016 battle lines being drawn? chris christie may be heading for a big win that could boost his white house chances as an influential center. it falls on hillary clinton to launch her own run. >>> and four years after political opposition fueled his plans to try them in new york city, attorney general eric holder says they would be on death row right now. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> right now, we're learning much more about the bloody shooting rampage at los angeles airport that sent panicked passengers fleeing for their lives, left a tsa officer dead and three more victims wounded. now there's a brand new push by the union that represents tsa officers to give them law enforcement status, in other words, guns and arrest powers to protect themselves and the public. meantime, the suspect, who allegedly targeted the tsa, remains in critical condition. cnn's stephanie elam has been piecing together
should tsa officers now be armed? i will ask california senator dianne feinstein. >>> also, are the 2016 battle lines being drawn? chris christie may be heading for a big win that could boost his white house chances as an influential center. it falls on hillary clinton to launch her own run. >>> and four years after political opposition fueled his plans to try them in new york city, attorney general eric holder says they would be on death row right now. i'm wolf blitzer....
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>> tsa was at the bottom of the stairs. so from where the screening station is, it is back a few ways, probably about, i don't know, ten yards or so from the stairs. so if you are at the rear of the screening station, you can't see to the bottom of the stairs. >> okay. cy want to read something from you. this is tsa's response. i want to get your reaction. here is what they say. each airport authority along with its state and local law enforcement partners is responsible for securing airport property. commercial airports in the united states are required to have an approved airport security program asp. these plans are written and drafted by each airport local authority and approved by the tsa. it is up to each airport authority and their state and local law enforcement partners to follow the plan that's been implemented. so that was a response to a reque question that we had. >> first i'm glad to get an actual response from mr. pistol. we met with him a year ago about these concerns and he was pretty dismissive about them.
>> tsa was at the bottom of the stairs. so from where the screening station is, it is back a few ways, probably about, i don't know, ten yards or so from the stairs. so if you are at the rear of the screening station, you can't see to the bottom of the stairs. >> okay. cy want to read something from you. this is tsa's response. i want to get your reaction. here is what they say. each airport authority along with its state and local law enforcement partners is responsible for...
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all the shooting victims were tsa employees. investigators say he seemed to be singling them out and even asked some people he encountered in the airport if they worked for the tsa. brian? >> pete williams with the latest on what we know from our d.c. bureau. pete, thanks. >>> bill bratton is with us, former chief of the lapd and the nypd. these days a security consultant and nbc news analyst. sadly, it seems we only get to talk to you after another episode of gun violence. this is your former turf. a place you were charged with protecting. that ring of tsa, commissioner, does not have weapons traditionally. you don't think the answer will be to weaponize concentric circles as you work your way into the airport? >> there will probably be a call to do just that. i would advocate against that trying to train 50,000 people to handle firearms in a very contained situation. better to leave it so the highly trained police personnel such as those that went into action today. >> as we said, l.a.x. on a friday morning, 9:30, busy place.
all the shooting victims were tsa employees. investigators say he seemed to be singling them out and even asked some people he encountered in the airport if they worked for the tsa. brian? >> pete williams with the latest on what we know from our d.c. bureau. pete, thanks. >>> bill bratton is with us, former chief of the lapd and the nypd. these days a security consultant and nbc news analyst. sadly, it seems we only get to talk to you after another episode of gun violence. this...
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in los angeles. >> reporter: gerardo hernandez was the first tsa officer to die in the line of duty, seen here on the job last december. officers james spear and tony grigsby were shot and released from the hospital. bryan mudrykmer, a high school teacher, was shot in the leg. >> he said he was grateful to be alive. he was hit, went down, turned around and saw the gunman face to face. >> reporter: in new jersey where ciancia grew up and attended private school, his father heard of the shooting on television. through an attorney, his family spoke today. >> it is most important for us as a family to express our deep and sincere sympathy to the hernandez family. >> reporter: ciancia was said to be dropped off at l.a.x. by an unsuspecting roommate. it's al believe -- also believed he sent text messages to his brother and sister before the shooting saying he wanted to die. the police did conduct a welfare check at his home in the los angeles area. it, though, was an hour after the shooting. >> miguel almaguer starting us off from l.a.x. tonight. thanks. >>> the white house tonight says th
in los angeles. >> reporter: gerardo hernandez was the first tsa officer to die in the line of duty, seen here on the job last december. officers james spear and tony grigsby were shot and released from the hospital. bryan mudrykmer, a high school teacher, was shot in the leg. >> he said he was grateful to be alive. he was hit, went down, turned around and saw the gunman face to face. >> reporter: in new jersey where ciancia grew up and attended private school, his father...
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it happened at a checkpoint and a tsa agent has been injured. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. right now mike taibbi is in los angeles in burbank. mike, what do we know? >> reporter: we don't know a lot. the access road century boulevard shut down leading into lax. there were many people in terminal 3 because of the weather situation on the east coast. multiple delays had lax and other airports around the country more packed than usual. when this happened it was a packed terminal. 9:30 pacific time, exchange of gunfire. eyewitness reports we've not confirmed this independently, an individual with a rifle near the checkpoint at virgin america opened fire. there was an exchange of gunfire. two victims shot they have been removed to loem local hospitals. the alleged suspect himself is also hit. he's been removed as well. still a fluid situation in that we don't know the way it has been resolved except the suspect, person identified as the suspect has been shot. we don't know if he's in custody or the condition of the three. th
it happened at a checkpoint and a tsa agent has been injured. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. right now mike taibbi is in los angeles in burbank. mike, what do we know? >> reporter: we don't know a lot. the access road century boulevard shut down leading into lax. there were many people in terminal 3 because of the weather situation on the east coast. multiple delays had lax and other airports around the country more packed than usual. when this happened it was a packed...
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he shot one tsa officer and wounded several others. the airport is open again and details tonight emerging. we have more from the airport and chris lawrence outside the suspect's home in new jersey. we'll begin, what do we know about what happened today? >> reporter: passengers say it was a normal day at the airport when suddenly they heard very, very loud popping, one man said it sound the like it must have been from a large gun. many saw spark s and started running. there was the beat of calm and then absolute chaos, sheer terror as people were trying to flee this terminal. what happened afterwards is that after this gunman was taken down by the police, passengers here were completely stuck and it was gridlock. you can see, piers, there is still people walking up and down the streets trying to figure out how to get to the next destination. >> and in terms of actually what he did, we now know she shot dead one tsa officer. we think he wounded a second tsa officer, a third person was also wounded. we believe and others may have suffere
he shot one tsa officer and wounded several others. the airport is open again and details tonight emerging. we have more from the airport and chris lawrence outside the suspect's home in new jersey. we'll begin, what do we know about what happened today? >> reporter: passengers say it was a normal day at the airport when suddenly they heard very, very loud popping, one man said it sound the like it must have been from a large gun. many saw spark s and started running. there was the beat...
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should tsa officers, for example, be armed. we went out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ ♪ hooking up the country whelping business run ♪ to enjoy all of these years. ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪ . right now the markets are mixed. the dow jones industrials up five points. not much move
should tsa officers, for example, be armed. we went out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ ♪...
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back then no tsa, you could run for a plane almost taxiing out and get on which is what we did. we landed in dallas not long after air force one went back to washington with the president's body. >> schieffer: and when did you learn of this film? >> about two hours later i was in a hotel, our stringer, part-time correspondent called me say she had heard from a fellow reporter wood heard from a come from blah, blah, blah. that a businessman had been in the plaza with a movie camera. i said, holy cow. what is his name i don't know how to spell it but i can pronounce it $apruder i looked in the phone book, never been in called before. there was zapruder, comma, abraham. i called that number finally at 11:00 that evening i got a very weary and distressed abraham zapruder. >> schieffer: made an appointment to come see you, he wouldn't see you that night. what happened after that? >> he said come to my office at 9:00. i got there at 8:00. which is lesson for journalism students job journalism, being early is being on time. i got there first. i saw the film with two secret service agen
back then no tsa, you could run for a plane almost taxiing out and get on which is what we did. we landed in dallas not long after air force one went back to washington with the president's body. >> schieffer: and when did you learn of this film? >> about two hours later i was in a hotel, our stringer, part-time correspondent called me say she had heard from a fellow reporter wood heard from a come from blah, blah, blah. that a businessman had been in the plaza with a movie camera....
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a tsa agent has been shot and killed. another tsa agent wounded. seven people in total, according to fire, seven people hurt, six taken to area hospitals. so as the investigation is now under way, fbi taking the lead with lapd working alongside of them. we are now hearing more and more from what these people, these people who thought they were just waking up to get on a plane, what they saw and heard. take a listen. >> just describe where you were at the time that this incident was taking place. >> we were in line as everything is happening. i think we were probably like -- we were ten men down from the front to get everything on our plane as we heard one shot and we were like all right, cool, we heard the second one and that's when we all ducked. but the first shot, just like caught us off guard. second shots went in and i just started making walls and walls out of luggages. i could see that guy walking towards the escalator just pointing down past us. >> the guy with the gun? >> yeah, the guy with the gun was pointing down the escalator. as i'm l
a tsa agent has been shot and killed. another tsa agent wounded. seven people in total, according to fire, seven people hurt, six taken to area hospitals. so as the investigation is now under way, fbi taking the lead with lapd working alongside of them. we are now hearing more and more from what these people, these people who thought they were just waking up to get on a plane, what they saw and heard. take a listen. >> just describe where you were at the time that this incident was taking...
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the tsa is obviously unarmed. we also know that los angeles moved to kind of the rooving patrols throughout the airport as opposed to having for sure one armed guard at a security check point. do you see anything worth rethinking right now? >> i talked to the director of tsa john pistol yesterday. we talked about a review of the policies at airports. every airport is a little bit different but the coordination with the local police is key because remember, tsa officers are not armed. it the local police that provide the perimeter security, if you will, that's a more soft target outside the check points and so, what we want to do is conduct and i want to work with the director of tsa to lack at how are we coordinating with locals at the airports of security, police officers to see is there something we can do better or differently? i will commend the officers, though, for a very quick and effective response. as you point out, he had multiple rounds that could have killed so many more people. we're fortunate that th
the tsa is obviously unarmed. we also know that los angeles moved to kind of the rooving patrols throughout the airport as opposed to having for sure one armed guard at a security check point. do you see anything worth rethinking right now? >> i talked to the director of tsa john pistol yesterday. we talked about a review of the policies at airports. every airport is a little bit different but the coordination with the local police is key because remember, tsa officers are not armed. it...
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tonight, breaking news, one of the tsa oicers wounded at l.a.x. describes the rampage that killed one of his colleagues, later killed a friend. >>> and later, what michelle knight endured year after year. she is finally telling her story to dr. phil later tonight. >>> and plus, incident from a player. >>> a tsa officer wounded in friday's rampage at los angeles international airport is telling his story for the first time just moments ago. tony grigsby, 36 years old, his colleague, james speer was also shot. his colleague, gerardo hernandez was also shot and killed. >> before i share my experience, for a moment, let me take a minute to express the sadness if feel from my heart over the loss of my friends. he was killed in the line of duty, gerardo hernandez. only now it has hit me that i will never see him again. he was a wonderful person. and a friend, and i will miss him. i send my condolences to his family. last time i talked to him, we joked about going on vacation to mexico and what should i do, where i should not go? i talked to him a lot. v
tonight, breaking news, one of the tsa oicers wounded at l.a.x. describes the rampage that killed one of his colleagues, later killed a friend. >>> and later, what michelle knight endured year after year. she is finally telling her story to dr. phil later tonight. >>> and plus, incident from a player. >>> a tsa officer wounded in friday's rampage at los angeles international airport is telling his story for the first time just moments ago. tony grigsby, 36 years old,...
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one tsa officer is dead, two others wounded. new details about the suspect and what the goal may have been. >>> plus -- more than 1 million people are showing they are boston strong. a parade in beantown celebrating the red sox's world series ti e title, and honoring the city's resilient, six months after the boston marathon bombing. >>> and an e-mail lands a u.s. marine in hot water. he could get booted for mishandling classified information. but some say he should be rewarded instead. >>> an urgent investigation is going on right now at los angeles, because of the l.a.x. shooting. a day after a gunman burst in killing a tsa officer, the suspect was detained after being shot, according to an intelligence source. our affiliate kcal and kcbs got this exclusive video, and it purportedly showing paul ciancia handcuffed to a stretcher. cnn cannot independently confirm who that person is on that stretcher. video from inside the terminal moments after shots were fired did show how chaotic it was. >> on the floor! on the floor! on the
one tsa officer is dead, two others wounded. new details about the suspect and what the goal may have been. >>> plus -- more than 1 million people are showing they are boston strong. a parade in beantown celebrating the red sox's world series ti e title, and honoring the city's resilient, six months after the boston marathon bombing. >>> and an e-mail lands a u.s. marine in hot water. he could get booted for mishandling classified information. but some say he should be...
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as we have seen, first, they thought it was a tsa agent who was trying to kill other tsa agents. so a lot of our problems aren't coming from terrorism, yes, that's a huge concern, but so are neighbors and coworkers that have become unhimpged, become unstable or disgruntled. i think an industry that has so much stress is not the place to add -- >> you would know as a former flight attendant. you point out, your husband is a pilot. you are all for security. let me read this, this is part of your cnn.com opinion piece that jumped out at me in this post-9/11 era. you said i was never a fan of armed pilots. another flight attendant might have felt insured, but when i walked into a cockpit to find a pilot with a gun on his lap, i was rattled. i had met the guy before, had no reason to distrust him, but even the thought of an incident was enough to question my safety. is it about people or is it about guns? >> it's a little bit of both, when you're adding -- you can screen people, but you don't know what's going to happen later in their lives or in the work place, as we have seen a lot
as we have seen, first, they thought it was a tsa agent who was trying to kill other tsa agents. so a lot of our problems aren't coming from terrorism, yes, that's a huge concern, but so are neighbors and coworkers that have become unhimpged, become unstable or disgruntled. i think an industry that has so much stress is not the place to add -- >> you would know as a former flight attendant. you point out, your husband is a pilot. you are all for security. let me read this, this is part of...
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the tsa has a thankless job, enforcing procedures we all tolerate through gritted teeth. a popular target. >> no kidding? who else wants a job groping men, women and children all day. >> reporter: among some anti-government activists, the agency embodies a federal government that's too invasive, corrupt and incompetent. today the u.s. attorney general took strong exception. >> no feelings about the government can possibly justify those kinds of actions. >> reporter: in other words, it's no excuse for murder. david wright, abc news, l.a.x. >> and from the airport shooting to a campus lockdown today. central connecticut state university was swarmed by police. a student called 911 to say he had seen a man with a gun. police say that man may have been wearing a halloween costume. three people were taken into custody. students were told to stay in their dorm rooms until the lockdown was lifted. >>> across america this morning millions of people woke up to some of the coldest weather of the season. look at the map. the northeast faced temperatures in the teens, 20s and 30s. ver
the tsa has a thankless job, enforcing procedures we all tolerate through gritted teeth. a popular target. >> no kidding? who else wants a job groping men, women and children all day. >> reporter: among some anti-government activists, the agency embodies a federal government that's too invasive, corrupt and incompetent. today the u.s. attorney general took strong exception. >> no feelings about the government can possibly justify those kinds of actions. >> reporter: in...
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--t: you mean tsa agency e tsa agents? caller: i'm not talking about 10 yards or 20 yards away. i'm talking about have somebody somewhere in the immediate facility with a weapon. airport was roaming the and nobody with a gun was anywhere to be found. as far as other procedures that could take place either from the airport loss -- airport's point of view or government's point of view, your thoughts on arming tsa agents, what are your thoughts on how to improve overall airport security? i guess you have to get them in the front door. this guy apparently walked in the front or with a weapon. if you go to a lot of places, schools or whatever, you walk through a metal to tactic. that is what we need, get them from the front as they come in the door. host: the orange county register has a graphic. with a man opened fire semi automatic weapon. this is the tsa screening area. he continued to shoot, according to a witness. tsa officer gerardo hernandez .as shot from the point where he enters into the point where he gets to that mind, we are asking about overall airport security. do you t
--t: you mean tsa agency e tsa agents? caller: i'm not talking about 10 yards or 20 yards away. i'm talking about have somebody somewhere in the immediate facility with a weapon. airport was roaming the and nobody with a gun was anywhere to be found. as far as other procedures that could take place either from the airport loss -- airport's point of view or government's point of view, your thoughts on arming tsa agents, what are your thoughts on how to improve overall airport security? i guess...
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there's a stair way below the tsa checkpoint here. that officer might have heard those shots, called in for backup and everything and you know, laid out the location then engaged the suspect right there at the checkpoint. he wouldn't have been able -- probably wouldn't have been able to run through the checkpoint down the corridor and into the passenger gates. >> i said millions spent on improving security, it was actually $1.6 billion investment. >> 1.6 billion. >> the officers moved, they were shifted from their assignments as you note in your article, to checkpoints in patrolling inside and outside of passenger terminals and in your piece you've written here, there of course is no guarantee even if the officers were at the check points, that this could have been avoided and you note an incident at lax back in july of 2002. >> there's the shooting in 2002. according to law enforcement, the shooter in that waited until the police were gone. but, yeah, no system is perfect. but, i mean, sure, the shooter could have taken out the offic
there's a stair way below the tsa checkpoint here. that officer might have heard those shots, called in for backup and everything and you know, laid out the location then engaged the suspect right there at the checkpoint. he wouldn't have been able -- probably wouldn't have been able to run through the checkpoint down the corridor and into the passenger gates. >> i said millions spent on improving security, it was actually $1.6 billion investment. >> 1.6 billion. >> the...
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and kill as tsa officer. a note found on him said he wanted to instill fear into their traitorous minds. so was he a terrorist? >>> plus -- >> whatever this video shows, the residents deserve to see it. >> this is the story when an poll xapology is not an apology. >>> and we just got done with halloween and the full throttle paint everything red and green nonstop ho, ho, ho rude salespeople, even more rude crowds, ugly sweaters, christmas retail is here. >> i could feel the christmas noose beginning to tighten. >> it's already tight. past the eggnog and let's go shopping for some deals. newsroom continues now. >>> good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. caught on tape. smoking what appears to be a crack pipe. that's the very serious allegation toronto police are making against that city's mayor saying evidence they recovered in an investigation is, quote, consistent with reports of the mayor's drug abuse. now mayor ford is apologizing. sort of. >> i'm not perfect. i have made mista
and kill as tsa officer. a note found on him said he wanted to instill fear into their traitorous minds. so was he a terrorist? >>> plus -- >> whatever this video shows, the residents deserve to see it. >> this is the story when an poll xapology is not an apology. >>> and we just got done with halloween and the full throttle paint everything red and green nonstop ho, ho, ho rude salespeople, even more rude crowds, ugly sweaters, christmas retail is here. >> i...
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hernandez, he is the first tsa agent to die in the line of duty, since the tsa was formed back in 2001. he then makes his way over to the departure area, the main airport, if you will, and that's where you had many people run for their lives. take a listen to how one passenger described the scene. >> it didn't sound like a pop. it sounded like a boom. so, at first, i couldn't tell if there was an accident or an explosion or what it was, before we had the chance to turn around and hear someone scream "gun," and security agents were screaming, get down, get down, get down. people were crawling all over each other. and my glasses got knocked off somewhere in between, so i can't see much. i just held onto my husband's hand. >> reporter: well, in terms of the suspect, ciancia, we know he took several rounds to the chest. at this point, we don't know his condition. we know he's in the hospital, and we don't know whether authorities have been able to question him. back to you. >> all right, dan simon, keep us posted. thank you so much. >>> so from tragedy to triumph right now, let gaes to bos
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one has died, a tsa agent, and the gunman is injured as well. i'm going to have my photographer swing to the right. people from terminal three are finally being let out. there are a couple thousand people who were in there and stranded in a safe room. some are walking by right as we're speaking at this moment. now, we did hear from some witnesses who did get out earlier today. and when they came out, they were talking about all sorts of different things happening inside, people running, hitting the ground in fear. hiding behind counters in restaurants. running down pathway s onto planes and onto the tarmac. listen to what one witness who saw what happened, what he said when the gunman walked in and opened fire. >> when the first shot came, there was loud screaming and people running. a group of us laid down on the floor, and then the suspect quite calmly walked upstairs and through the checkpoint and fired a few more shots, and then he just walked around the corner. >> now, the president was also briefed about this today. as you might imagine, a
one has died, a tsa agent, and the gunman is injured as well. i'm going to have my photographer swing to the right. people from terminal three are finally being let out. there are a couple thousand people who were in there and stranded in a safe room. some are walking by right as we're speaking at this moment. now, we did hear from some witnesses who did get out earlier today. and when they came out, they were talking about all sorts of different things happening inside, people running, hitting...
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there were reports that he asked if people were tsa. he killed one tsa worker and wounded as many as three others before he himself was shot in the chest and taken into custody. he's reported to be in critical condition in the hospital. law enforcement sources tell the l.a. times that authorities found a note next to the shooter in which he expressed, quote, his disappointment with the government. nbc news reporting that the shooter sent a suicidal text to his family before entering the airport where he apparently started shooting. again, though, the shooter is alive in critical condition and in custody. l.a.x. is a mess in terms of flight cancellations and delays and thousands of passengers getting stranded. this is a story we'll be following through the night as we learn more. please keep watching this space for news. >>> here's the background, when george w. bush picked harriet players, he was showing his trademark loyalty. he was also particularly happy to have found a woman he trusted for that job since the seat she was going to be
there were reports that he asked if people were tsa. he killed one tsa worker and wounded as many as three others before he himself was shot in the chest and taken into custody. he's reported to be in critical condition in the hospital. law enforcement sources tell the l.a. times that authorities found a note next to the shooter in which he expressed, quote, his disappointment with the government. nbc news reporting that the shooter sent a suicidal text to his family before entering the airport...
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in light of yesterday's shooting, do you think the tsa, tsa officers should be armed? >> i really don't think so. this is one of three terrible incidents we've had in los angeles. you might recall we had a terrible shooting at santa monica college. someone drove onto the venice boardwalk and injured people. and now the shooting at the airport. we can't arm everyone where these events of gun violence take place. going through the training and arming of potentially tens of thousands of tsa agents, i just don't think that's the course we want to take. >> i want to switch gears here. you said on the house intelligence committee, you wrote an op-ed in "the l.a. times." you called for changes to be made to the nsa's massive phone data gathering program and say it's the evidence that it has made us safer is limited. instead it appears that the utility of the metadata program has been conflated with the success of other collection efforts. how do you determine how much surveillance, then, is too much? >> i think we have to weigh what is the size of the program, what is the mag
in light of yesterday's shooting, do you think the tsa, tsa officers should be armed? >> i really don't think so. this is one of three terrible incidents we've had in los angeles. you might recall we had a terrible shooting at santa monica college. someone drove onto the venice boardwalk and injured people. and now the shooting at the airport. we can't arm everyone where these events of gun violence take place. going through the training and arming of potentially tens of thousands of tsa...